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1. Don't fight the Fed. & Don't fight CY 2012-09-29 12:05:10 |
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博士, 場show要來始終都會來, 你叫陣都冇乜用, 樓價始終都要大幅向下調整, 你都識講 "Don't fight the Fed.", 唔通就可以唔套用 "Don't fight CY" 咩? 等睇呢場show啦 !! |
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2. 拒絕陪癲 陶冬賣樓 2012-09-29 12:07:01 |
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政府雖然頻頻出手，但本港樓價卻愈升愈有。著名經濟分析員、瑞信亞太區首席經濟師陶冬直言，香港房地產和租金已進入「瘋狂狀態」，他為了不與瘋狂為伍，於日前將個人持有的物業賣出。他又指，人民幣若國際化、可以自由兌換後，香港原有優勢將會消失。 |
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3. 業主大幅加租簡直就是「殺雞取卵」 2012-09-29 12:19:51 |
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陶冬今次賣樓獲利甚豐，但他卻將沽貨的原因歸咎於樓市過於瘋狂。他昨日指出，「我不知道香港樓價明天是漲還是跌，但我知道它已經不可控，我不願意跟這種瘋狂為伍，所以選擇賣樓！」，更怒斥香港房地產已經進入瘋狂狀態，令香港的牛腩麵、菠蘿油等本土特色在租金飛漲中經歷一場浩劫，業主大幅加租簡直就是「殺雞取卵」。 建議CY一於向收租業主收取額外租務利得稅,按加租幅度增加額外利得稅,以阻止业主瘋亂加租, 秒殺香港中小企及小店生存權利, 保障多元化產业. |
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4. BC 2012-09-29 13:18:03 |
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If I had 2 units in Kowloon station like "陶冬", I would probably do the same way as he did. Sell one unit for profit taking and still keep another one for rental collection. |
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5. 市民 2012-09-29 13:20:35 |
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香港政府應該收取百分之五十租金稅，令投資者無法用租金收入供樓，香港樓價自然會調整，好過用SSD加強版多多聲。 |
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6. 本港人 2012-09-29 13:26:03 |
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通脹上升只有加息.因聯匯不能加息.唯有加人工,資本家又嘈,派福利建公屋納稅人又嘈,總之社會＝自私＝難搞 |
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7. 香港前途 2012-09-29 13:37:10 |
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香港一般正當生意難以經營，因為租金不斷上升，最終中小企業結業潮開始，結果香港失業率飆升，而大量香港市民，因為失業而供不起樓，加上環球經濟惡化，大陸經濟硬着陸，外資因香港租金實在太貴而撤出香港，失業人數再大幅增加，香港樓市最終大幅調整，這樣情節估計在2014年發生，適逢香港樓市供應已因為政府政策而大幅增加，係供過於求情況下樓市持續疲弱。 |
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8. 七十後公務員 2012-09-29 13:38:37 |
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香港是一個很小而又自由開放的經濟體，很容易受外圍影響：美國QE了一段時間，樓巿還是不挀；內地死壓樓巿，樓巿郤只是悶局。香港郤升天了，當然這是危也是機（以前投資了就如陶冬可以獲利了，現在想上車可就要扒逆水了），只是這情況現在政府能做的不多，做錯的可能性超大（如大量增加供應，或壓抑需要，或推不應上車的人上車等）。有人對自由場無限推崇，而對自由巿場的波動又諸多不滿，要求有形之手強加干預，或無論高峰低谷都怨政府（政府是無能，但在這方面此時此地實不該太有為）。 |
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為何香港這麼多蠢人,向業主徵租金稅,只會轉嫁去租戶,好似加煙稅,最後又係煙民比稅,而唔係賣煙商比. |
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10. 還是你最明白 2012-09-29 15:05:31 |
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T0；9樓~~~個D白痴，痴人説夢話。。。還是9樓最清醒，試問下管理公司加保護費，最終咪係反影於租金内。果堆痴痴呆呆坐埋一臺~明白未呀！ |
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11. xx 2012-09-29 16:27:40 |
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Some people is this web thinks in a very strange way. In their mind, it is a sin to have a property and we should use different ways to punish these person. Please do not forgot that it is not easy for those people who own the property. They have worked very hard and need to save every penny in their life to get the property. They also contribute a lot to government in tax for owning the property. Why the society keeps on thinking different way to rob the money from the people? |
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12. 井水 2012-09-29 16:35:40 |
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既然你話＂現在官員們唯一希望樓市冧，否則，政府冧＂，那麼，所有人包括你現在要沽清所有物業了，否則將來會損失惨重，除非你係同政府對着幹的人，係想吹大樓市泡沫的人。 |
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13. 睇穿你 2012-09-29 16:47:55 |
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有很多在房地產市場覓食的人(集團)，都知道個樓市很快就會爆煲，但是他們不會承認是他們這麼多年來的所作所為而做成的，他們只會齊心地把責任推給政府官員，以求置身事外，甚至可以再撈一些政治油水。 |
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14. 捉虫 2012-09-29 16:51:17 |
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香港地少人多，七百萬人擠在彈丸之地，未來數十年還會增多一百萬人，既然土地少，房屋少，爭議多，任何房屋政策的推出都是吃力不討好，總會有一些既得利益者反對，為何不從香港＂人多＂這方面研究，減少人口，那麼房屋供應便不再是問題了，大家有何高見。 |
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15. 唔敢嘍囉 2012-09-29 17:01:01 |
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如果在這裹講事實，話楼市有泡沫快爆破，將會受到圍攻，所以不如話嘉湖將會升到五萬蚊一呎，其他楼如此類推，大家開唔開心？ |
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16. 屯門樓一萬元呎 2012-09-29 17:17:11 |
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---1---不要忘記97年的樓價是超級泡沫價，即 CCL-100點 本身就是一個反映超高價，癲價的指標。 所以與1997年比較，15年升了 10%，或是升了 50%，都表示樓市是有不同程度的泡沫的。---2--- 資產價格不斷飈升，資產泡沫已形成 。---3--- 美國有金融危機，又欠債累累，歐債危機只有拖延而没有解決，這些都是對全球經濟有極壞影響的恐佈大事，香港不能置身事外---4--- 將來如果美國宣佈加息，當加息周期一開始便很難停下來，大家是否已經忘記了97年時的息口嗎？---5--- 至於失業率問題，當全球經濟惡化至浮面時，香港可以獨善其身嗎？失業率還不飈升嗎？---6--- 樓市有沒有泡沫？在香港，當某些人(集團)要唱好散貨的時候，很多人會加入唱好，很多市民亦難以抗拒因而怍出入市之決定，只有少數人能保持清醒而堅持原則，所以才會出現盲搶樓、恐慌性入市、驚執輸的現象，因此，大家不要待樓市泡沫真的爆破的時候才相信，否則便會太遲了。 |
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17. 睇得通 2012-09-29 19:12:49 |
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在樓市稍為向上調升，已經再度出招，將按揭收緊至4成, ......政府壓低按揭至4成是正確的. ......免得未來太多銀主盤............. |
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18. 睇得通 2012-09-29 19:22:14 |
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回答2題目論點: 瑞信亞太區首席經濟師陶冬直言，香港房地產和租金已進入「瘋狂狀態」，他為了不與瘋狂為伍，於日前將個人持有的物業賣出..........應該說: 將個人持有的物業賣出一部份,仍有一部份未賣出,.........應該說: 適當先賺取一部份錢先, ........... |
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19. To 11 2012-09-29 19:45:11 |
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Agree! |
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20. to 11 xx 2012-09-29 19:55:39 |
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It is not a sin to have a property and people in this web are not using different ways to punish them. We all know that it is not easy for them as they have worked very hard and need to save every penny in their life to get the property. However, we need to educate them not to be so stupid to buy property with crszy price. Not to pay $8,000/sq.ft for a $4,000/sq.ft property. If we all become smart, then we can buy our own property with reasonable price and the market will develope in a healthy way. |
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21. To 20 2012-09-29 19:57:26 |
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Agree ! SAY NO TO CRAZY PRICE !!! |
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22. Hongkong People 2012-09-29 22:08:32 |
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Our government is so eager to curb the appreciation of the property. Can anybody tell me that HKD along with the depreciation of USD, how HK people can hedge the situation?? Anyhow, HK cannot avoid the inflation pressure as most of goods are imported from our neighbours where their currencies appreciated against USD/HKD.
If we don't hedge the situation with asset, we will soon become poor brothers of our neighbours. |
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23. mini 2012-09-29 22:13:26 |
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The latest powder ( land ) price is around HK$4100 per sq.ft. and the construction cost in average is about HK$3000 per sq.ft.on the basis of minimum wages & the rising incomes of the mainland chinese and the higher energy costs, so we should have to buy a single family house / unit@ 300 sq.ft. for HK$3Million ; 400 sq.ft. for HK$4M ; 500 sq.ft. for HK$5M; 600 sq.ft. for HK$6M; 700 sq.ft for HK$7M; ... 900 sq.ft for HK$9M and above... We should note that many existing old buildings should be demolished in Sham Shui Po /To Kwa Wan and the other districts in 20 years, and more babies/new families will come in town... It is not an easy task to fix the needs for housing in HK... |
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24. BC 2012-09-30 09:30:42 |
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Owners don't want the property going down, but for those who don't have property request Gov to impose tighter measures on property market. If the HK economy turns bad like the period from Yr 1997 to 2003, salary has to be reduced, unemployment rate goes up. It will certainly affect all HK people. Is it really what we are looking for? Personally, I don't want to encounter that situation like SARS. For the poor, some of them were laid off. For middle class, salary was cut. No job security, working from 9:00am to even 9:00pm is not uncommon. Finally, for the rich, boss, they are certainly affected to some extent, but they still had a better living than the poor and middle class. So I agree to increase the min wage so as to bridge the gap between the poor and middle class for a amiable society. |
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25. From BC to Mimi on 23/F 2012-09-30 09:36:00 |
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I really doubt that the construction cost is HK$3,000psf. I think it is the excuse for developers to sell their residential project at a higher price. Well, maybe Mr. Tong can give us a further picture on this regard. |
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26. public house owner 2012-09-30 10:27:13 |
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5. 市民 it is an excellent suggestion. I think CY'team know it works, but they do not want house price to go down, they just not want the real bubble come and subsequent cause the collapse of housing market, in which most of his team also own quite a number of properties. He might as well does not allow anyone to borrow money from the bank to buy properties, so as to avoid properties collapse. |
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27. AGREE WITH 20,21,25 2012-09-30 11:59:50 |
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SAY NO TO CRAZY PRICE |
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28. A X R 2012-09-30 12:01:25 |
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Also say no to property crocodile !!!!!!!!! |
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29. rolexdc 2012-09-30 12:46:11 |
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＂陶冬今次賣樓獲利甚豐，但他卻將沽貨的原因歸咎於樓市過於瘋狂＂ 僞善莫過如此 ！！ 無恥之人 ！！ |
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30. RE: 2012-09-30 17:05:48 |
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What is REASONABLE price? What is CRAZY price. If you accepted the selling price, pay & affort it, this is reasonable on your mindset. If you can't pay & affort it, that is crazy price. Which is yours????????? |
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31. price 2012-09-30 18:04:39 |
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What is REASONABLE price? What is CRAZY price. REASONABLE PRICE = 1998, 1999, 2000......... CRAZY PRICE = 1997, 2012 |
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32. yy 2012-10-01 02:59:04 |
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持貨者的實力左右將來的調整深度，貨在強者手，小斬倉貨，下跌幅度有限；萬一稍為下跌就出現外來買家，本地人祇能徒呼荷荷。以上是胡猜怪想，因為我祇是人，沒能力對前景作出準確猜測。7TEM |
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33. 外來因素更做對正 2012-10-01 11:16:36 |
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民生最重要合理的生活當然要有良好政策，本地有本港投資，外來有外來的炒賣，或投資。升了沒人喜歡下跌，當然小量是可以，但到現時……已非合理性。 |
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34. yy 2012-10-01 14:45:31 |
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所以炒賣要抽重税！ |
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35. Re: Price 2012-10-02 16:05:05 |
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Which things selling price is back to 1998, 1999 or 2000? Travelling fees? It's crazy, so don't take bus or taxi, even MTR. Lunch or dinner? So don't eat. School fees? So don't study. Crazy or not depends on you can pay or not. If someone still pay for the crazy price and earn some, he is crazy winner. He might be 嬴粒糖，輸間廠。 I'm not a crazy winner, aren't you? |
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36. 向饭民说不 2012-10-02 19:09:05 |
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所以炒賣要抽重税！ 甘香港點做金融中心。真系廢物。 |
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37. Re:Re 2012-10-02 20:58:23 |
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Some bullshit people always wish the property price going up crazily. They think of different way to rob the money from the non-property owner (e.g. suggest to cancel/cease the SDD, objection to impose regulation for the rental market etc.). All those big property investers and agents are damaging HK as they are enlarging the bubble of the property market. They only want the citizen buying property with crazy, high and unreasonable price. They are providing the poison and worst suggestions to the citizen on this matter. |
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38. CBA 2012-10-02 21:03:59 |
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I discover that for those who want the property price going up and express aggressive thinking about property price usually write emotional chinese articles. I believe that the majority of HK people really like the property price/trend stay in a healthy condition. However, a lot of bad people want the property market stay in a crazy condition so that they can earn more money from it. |
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39. tony J 2012-10-02 21:05:55 |
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Totally agree with 37and 38. |
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40. 678 MMM 2012-10-02 21:08:14 |
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For the sake of Hong kong, STOP THE CRAZY PRICE ^(**)^ |
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41. 煲浪追浪 2012-10-02 23:15:16 |
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瑞信亞太區首席經濟師陶冬~瑞信做乜架....專出窩輪,重要下下唔到價...信佢,咪傻那!專搵人笨實既分柝師,最可怕就是這些呢度食呢度呵既人板....有時間睇下佢D股市分析你就明...左手推右手沽...沽完又唱衰,再建倉,再唱好跟手又沽過,有炒窩輪者即知是否事實. |
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42. fully agree 8. 七十後公務員 2012-10-03 00:13:19 |
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fully agree 8. 七十後公務員 you are the best reply |
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43. 煲浪追浪 2012-10-03 01:26:22 |
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只會叫樓價太高,應提供有建設性的建議才是.只會空談不是廢青是什麼~~~要知土地是香港既糧倉,一砌福利開支均依重這糧倉.只要大家決心支持政府打擊樓價,政府此仗必勝無疑.....一./扎鐵土曰薪降至800~二/地盤及裝修水電工降至曰薪300.-三./政府賣地價不可高於一千元尺.....因應政府財政緊縮而要收緊開支~即時政府部門減薪三成,取消九年免費教育,取消車/船/綜援津貼.醫療自費乘擔~~~~~包保一月內樓價下跌五成....(中國以前是這樣的,直至土地有價後才出現福利及建設政策)...說到做到,不要後悔. |
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