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今日全世界嘅福利國家有邊個好? 1樓想多D福利? 去移民啦, 一係就去搵肉民, 家傑, 佢一定幫到你, 帶你一齊訓街, 日日都唔駛做, 日日去圍立法會就夠啦.

香港地價是全世界最貴的地方,沒有人反對,是事實.
與此同時,香港擁有廉價的醫療,免費教育,廉價住屋,退休式(沒有限期)綜援制度.

如果香港不實行高地價,要加稅,選民你願意嗎?

以前,有句說話形容皇帝,忠言逆耳,現在,這句說話用來形容政棍選民最適合.
現在,香港政治環境,有班乞票班政棍希望香港越亂越好,凡是對政府不滿,凡是反對政府,為他們乞到更多選票.

之前在回應王文彥先生 "地產霸權與第二個李嘉誠"一文, 有此一說:

"高地價政策是香港能有今日成就的一項重要政策.

由於香港稅基狹窄, 薪俸稅和利得稅等又都有可能因避稅而少收. 所以高地價政策的賣地收入和所衍生出來的高額印花稅, 就成為政府重要的收入來源. 它不公平, 但公義, 它讓有能力負擔樓價的富裕或相對富裕人口承擔更多的社會責任. 而且是心甘情愿地, 自覺自愿地去多付稅項, 讓政府在財政上有能力支援需要援助的低下階層.

非議高地價政策, 就等同於非議香港的福利政策, 因為它讓政府難為無米之炊."

康德在 "什麼是啟蒙" 中指出, 要 "擺脫自己所加之於自己的不成熟狀態, ...要有勇氣運用自己的理性." 褒揚高地價政策, 正是這種理性的運用.  

It went back to before 80’s, HK Government wanted to develop HK but we did not have enough funds, so that the Government put more land for auction.

The businessman used the land to construct the building and factory. It could call the period of government corporate with businessman. The rise of Mr. Li began the property tycoon, following other tycoons on the stage. This policy plus limit supply of land property tycoon doing property businesses got rich to very rich.

It is true that high land policy is part of the explanations of why we are living in the most expensive place in the world. It also generates government revenue because of high property prices are so good.  As the economy grows and population increase, there is only one way for HK private property going to north.

You reap what you sow, another example of unintended consequences by intentional behaviors. It is not only a paper gains for buying and selling properties to each other but it also create wealth for speculating property games. In fact, buying and selling properties are not productive activities per se.  

It is easy to blame the high land price policy or point out the disadvantages. Once this policy is in place, it is not easy for the Government to revert. 

The more you know the more you realize how little you know!

Hak Shek Lung,

I understand you may have concern for the youngsters.  But, it is inevitable when the society is progressing in a fast pace.  Youngsters should upgrade themselves to catch up with the society.  Blaming the society and others cannot help them.

And, guess you are old enough to understand that property market is also cyclical.  It will has its high and also low.  In the times of high property prices, youngsters should upgrade themselves, increase their marketability and save their first bucket for opportunity to come.

Striking and blaming others are really not a practical way to grow rich.  As a mature and sophisticated person, we have responsibilities to guide them to a right way.  Standing by their side to blame others are irresponsible act.....sometimes, you won't know you are doing the wrong thing with a kind heart.

羊毛出自羊身上，這個世界沒有完美的政策!

除了政策的因素，香港的息口是美國訂的，美元大幅貶值，資金流入資產市場，資產價格上升本來就是十分合理!

民粹主義高漲，政客興風作浪是事實，但政府有做好分配資源的角色嗎?

發展賭業 = 主要問遊客攞水(macau係樣板), 自己人願者上釣(就似賭波, mark six)

推行銷售稅 = 向全部自己友攤手板, 洗得起$既比多D, 遊客會減少幫手 (一D大陸客(現有主力)會嫌貴, 唔黎la)

高地價政策 = 先向投資客(已有屋既自己人+大陸豪客+熱錢)賒數, 希望無屋既自己人睇數

The Government should provide all support for entrepreneurs with young generation's innovations. The resource planning should also focus on the 6 industries including innovation & technology, cultural & creative industries. 

Ingenuity : this is the upward mobility factor for M generation.

Education is the key to breaking cycle of poverty.

Career is the key success factor for financial independence.

所以歐洲現在要吃屎，樓上也該去吃屎啦。

美聯儲息只影響港息的基準P(參考數值而已 - 有多少貸款的息口是P?)
H是資金供求決定的
一堆以為聯匯影響力無邊者忽視了其他影響本港按息的因素 :
~ 乾塘的內企南下搶水的效應(問個bank friend即知) - 資金需求增加
~ 存款風險及機會成本("負利率"令存款流失)增加等等(炒樓股匯期貨商品者便是不屑存款回報之眾) - 資金供應始終受限(落街睇牌價便可發現銀號正在搶定存)
是故即便P和H不變，銀號的新造按息咪照加(他們唔出P減3點幾/H加零點幾之plans了)
準買家的潛在負擔增加是事實
"資金流入資產市場，資產價格上升"是有限度的

筆者似乎認為香港經濟已近窮途末路，非行高地價政策不可...
真可悲，我們是否沒有其他可行的財路了？
能移民的專業人士多好，到產業結構均衡一點之地生根發展...
付多點稅也值得，至少看得見明天

我有自己的屋住，仍怕失業...
希望高地價不會禍及無孤的港人

經紀人說得對，港樓內地人搶住要
他們的貨不愁市場，因此他們沒必要唱好
私樓讓給外來客吧，賺的錢給無屋的港人起公居屋
這樣，高地價才真正養活大家

To 123,

Sorry, it should be GNP instead of GPD!  By the way, why you say that the European countries have higher GNP than GDP of HK??  It's not true you know??

But, they did have something alarmingly high i.e. unemployment rate (lowest is around 10% and highest up to 20%), and their budget deficit and national debt....

To稅誰付:

First of all, 行高地價政策 is not necessarily equals to 香港經濟已近窮途末路.
And, you mention that "我們是否沒有其他可行的財路了？", we are open to any good and viable suggestion.  Do you have any good suggestion??

And, you mentioned "能移民的專業人士多好，到產業結構均衡一點之地生根發展...
付多點稅也值得，至少看得見明天". can you let us know which countries are that good?? I also want to migrate to.

I travelled to US and a lot of European countries, they are paying a lot of taxes and have minimum wage to protect them, but I saw lots of beggars on the street. And young girl approached us for food only.

Canada maybe a better place, but youngsters after their school are flooding back to Hong Kong for better career opportunities....what does that mean??

"我有自己的屋住，仍怕失業...", you think people in other western countries don't worry job loss??  that may not be true.  their govn't will only give subsidy to job losers for a certain period of time.  After that, they are on their own.  They have the chances of starving to death and become homeless....In HK, I seldom see beggars on the street and people starving to death.  So, think about it.

"經紀人說得對，港樓內地人搶住要
他們的貨不愁市場，因此他們沒必要唱好
私樓讓給外來客吧，賺的錢給無屋的港人起公居屋
這樣，高地價才真正養活大家"  Everyone should be responsible for one's self.  Shouldn't expect anybody to feed them.  They should earn their own living.