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1. Wild goose uni post(poned) graduate 2014-01-29 10:20:50

It seems that one of the main investment objective(s) of REITs is for investors to have stable return i.e. dividends on rental properties.  Notwithstanding, property development (production > stock holding > sales over a few years) is subjected to higher risk which does not consistent with the objective of stable return.  On the other hand, REIT has to distribute a substantial portion of its earnings to the unit-holders.  For property development project, loan or additional (loans), for instance, has to be obtained.  In a way, distributable earnings will be immediately reduced over the following years before completion & sales of the project(s).  If this was to be done, the meaning of REIT as a stable investment vechicle would become subtle.

2. 多隻鬼 2014-01-29 11:11:31
多些人參與投地 , 落標自然進取........
3. 政府開始怕 2014-01-29 12:02:59
怕不夠人幫襯它買地建屋, 所以要找鬼買!
4. PN 2014-01-29 12:08:19
I saw comments like buying a finished property will (potentially) need to pay all sorts of tax and subjected to all sort of limitations now and in future. While buying a piece of land is not (yet). You can imagine you invested in a fund which in term allow you to use 18/F of the finished property..... and you transfer your rights (represented by an BVI entity indeed) is paying no tax.
Tamasek had been investing heavily in HK (commercial) property if memory is still serving me well
5. 點解一定要D業主犧牲.....#@%*...... 2014-01-29 12:08:42
大陸供港雞有H5N1就連香港D雞一齊殺清,
仲叫人改吓食活雞嘅習慣. 食冰鮮雞都得....
咁!點解CY冇GUTS對市民說, 依家你地覺得私樓咁貴, 
咪改吓囉,放棄買私樓囉, 住公屋咪仲好,
又可以攞D首期上大陸做生意添....咁咪合符晒我屍正怖告嘅內容....
但係唔講得,前者有冰鮮雞代替, 
後者卻冇公屋供應,
就算有,呢班手持首期待買樓的,又過不了入息或資產上限.......
超!點解一定要推冧個市,叫D業主犧牲.....#@%*......


6. REITs 可做舊樓重建 2014-01-29 13:37:36
REITS 可做舊樓重建小型項目, 也有它的作用。小業主自已辦不上市 REITS 重建便多些新居所而不用屋協屋委收購那慢。
7. 好過大維修浪費 2014-01-29 13:44:11
REITS 小型舊樓項目幾十個業生傾好重建l5倍建 SERVICE APARTMENT 收租分紅可也!
8. 高官衛生巾 2014-01-29 13:47:51

自從高官上位後,以為官場還有點正氣之士,可惜觀其言行,怕已修練一身官場絕技,過著快快樂樂遊花園,平平安安回家來的無能庸官日子!!

何解!?   庸官絕技,問題簡單複雜化,再而複雜問題變臭化。高高在上,長做長有。   

如果政府肯由醫療系統直接訂貨轉售港媽,問題就如B仔打針般簡單即刻搞掂。區區幾個奶粉商,莫非可以公然唔賣比政府??

如果肯比4,5個鐘隔離大6雞雞係文錦渡,問題就如你我係機場等上機簡單即刻搞掂。竟然話無地安排有難度,笑唔笑死人。你估要起個人工島豪華候雞大堂咩!!

查實"高官"係路姆西個死黨,"衛生跟"

9. 不用被發展商吃水深 2014-01-29 13:48:08

Small owners set up a mutual reits funds to redevelop service apartments for sharing rental yield may be a good idea.

10. 亮劍 2014-01-29 14:31:50

啲濕狗磚家成日話打後香港嘅土地及樓宇會增加喎⋯⋯

呢個世界殺頭生意有人做,賠本生意冇人制!

因此就算你政府推地,就實成交的嗎?

就算啲地賣出曬又如何?

建築進度邊個揸庄?

開售時間邊個話事?

落成日期誰能左右?

在港股市場博弈中,港燈今早一開波就「破發」,咁即係代表李生又成功過咗大中小投資者一幢,現在佢大把本銭將啲樓揸多陣。

李嘉誠手持三大樓盤等開波,市場咪講咗好多個月話佢會賣會賣?

但我神早就話,你有打房政府一日,佢啲樓唔就來入伙或變成現樓,李生都唔同你推大盤住,因為佢要就啲換樓客時間表。

高官們真是要睇睇湯博士、法子、仲逹、pp 同我亮劍呢年幾講乜春,我哋提曬水嫁啦!


三個臭皮匠,勝你一個諸葛亮!

否則瓜咗都唔知邊個對你一嘢!

11. Wild goose uni post(poned) graduate 2014-01-29 15:35:21
REIT is a "collective investment scheme" which needs SFC to approve before listing and is regulated.
12. 法子 2014-01-29 17:13:16
房託基金「買地起屋」是有 point 的。

想一想,房託基金的生意是「收租」,要有物業先可以收租。而得到物業的方法有兩個。第一個係「向別人買」。第二個係「自己起」。

「向別人買」要畀重重的3D。

但「自己起」不用畀3D之餘,而且現在政府「亂推地」,地價是十分之平。起好之後,反正是自己長收租,不用畀3D。

所以,房託基金「自己買地起物業」,只是3D之下道的演變。很正常。
13. to 11 2014-01-29 17:14:01
then legalise unlisted reits for small owners to group old slump flats downtown to redevelop into plot ratio 15 service apartment ? whats wrong with that ? public benefits rules.
14. 要食新鮮雞 2014-01-29 18:33:07
高永文局長唔好攪到咁理論化, 甚麼公平貿 易, 真是荒謬  

民生問題, 要solution, 不要理論  

新年流流, 唔好攪到市民無新鮮雞食, 雞農虧本, 業界無工開3 星期  

洗乾淨個雞場, 賣香港雞啦

15. mini 2014-01-29 19:31:25

內地24省去年經濟增長勝全國水平

內地已公布去年生產總值(GDP)的26個省份中,除了北京及上海增速與全國保持一致之外,其餘24個省份經濟增長均超過7.7%的全國水平。  去年貴州經濟增長最快,增速12.7%,天津、西藏、重慶及雲南經濟增速均達12%以上。
  按總量計算廣東GDP近6.22萬億元人民幣,繼續是全國生產總值最大地區,江蘇及山東則排名第二及三位。

16. 聰明人看樓市 2014-01-30 07:43:23

【明報專訊】過去數月香港住宅市場由新盤獨力支撐,銷情轉熱,黎永滔指樓市未必如外界想像中熾熱,又稱現時入市有一定危機。他稱市場只剩下一手市場有成交,二手市場未能去貨,業主「買得到卻賣不出」,減慢資金流動,交易鏈斷裂,未能正常運轉。另一邊廂,發展商為求去貨減價賣樓,樓價只會一浪低過一浪,因此勸勉投資者現時入市要量力而為,若無迫切性則避免入市。

一手樓獨撐 樓市不健康

他認為,之前香港的住宅樓價受低利率環境及內地資金入市影響變得嚴重扭曲,樓市存在一定泡沫,「一層樓根本不值那樣高的價錢,未來受外圍因素影響,樓價未必會大跌,但會慢慢陰乾,每年跌5%至10%,2至3年後樓價跌幅最多或會達四成」。

《施政報告》揀選的四個策略性地區,包括銅鑼灣、跑馬地及金鐘等地方發展地下空間,黎永滔表示,對投資者而言是正面消息,「日本都有地下城,地下空間的人始終會走出地面,可以令周邊地區更加旺,對地舖價格有正面影響」。至於政府表示未來會透過多項措施增加酒店供應,黎表示﹕「未來酒店供應大增,來往內地的交通配套亦逐漸完善,加上有報告指過夜旅客近年已大減,未來可能上午在北京飲早茶,下午到香港飲下午茶,晚上再回北京參加囍宴都可以,所以投資酒店有一定危險。」

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17. Wild goose uni post(poned) graduate 2014-01-30 09:33:36

There is nothing wrong with that.  REIT in HK mainly refers to listed real estate trusts.  Investors can always set up private trusts/funds in HK for similar purpose.  Yet, if the pupose was for REIT, the following questions could be considered:

1) The sellers of the properties for redevelop would become unit-holders.  They would not be direct  owners to the properties in the future.  The would be unit-holders, their rights not attached to specific properties.

2) Who manages the REIT? Who would be the trustee?

3) Public holding %?

4) Borrow rate / borrowing period / asset pledged for the redevelopment projects?

5) Who would pay rental income to the REIT and the distribution % i.e. dividend policy?

 

 

18. to 17 2014-01-30 13:04:19

1. individual owners turn their old slump downtown flats into unit shares would improve liquidity of their assets coupled with higher plot ratio and enhanced newness of the property of the unit trust. All would welcome.

2. professionals would manage the trust: an architect a surveyor and a financial advisor and the building mortgagee bank can be the trustee.

3. if need to be listed it can be otc through the trustee bank like mutual funds in hk with minimal restriction on public holding.

4. this question can only be answered according to the location and size of the lot of land.

5. the building mortgagee shall be the trustee until the building mortgage is fully repaid and as to afterwards dividend it can be agreed amongst original owners in the beginning of the whole deal.