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1. 亮劍 2013-02-23 14:39:12 |
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有數得計，要是你擁有一層巿區約八百萬嘅樓收緊租，現在無可能放售，因為呢層樓可能供緊H按，只是一厘息，每月收租已夠俾按揭供款有凸，防守力充足。 而除非你擁有超過一個物業以上，而又鐵心割禾青走人，再唔喺可見將來入翻巿，否則由今日開始單計厘印、兩次買賣佣金及律師費，係咁 2 計就最少跌壹成先叫做打和，仲有SSD鎖三年及H按一厘變P按要兩厘幾未同你計數。 今次狂加厘印波及埋非住宅，咁發展商想出貨整靚盤數，唔再得囉喎！發展商有財政壓力，政府及嗰啲無殼蝸牛就希望佢哋大發慈悲，唔賺夾蝕讓啲物業，以保持正現金流，但請問佢哋瞓醒未？地產發展商合理嘅做法就係減少投地及拖延建築進度，唔信放長雙眼睇落去。 政府在推行減低需求之同時，政策對減低供應嘅效果可以話更顯著，我 推斷後巿成交將要再大幅縮減，但價格就在高位反覆。 現今樓巿喺高位，首置客已經有心無力或買唔落手，而炒家、大陸客及公司客，在之前已俾 SSD及BSD雙辣椒打到飛埋牆角玩失蹤， 現在攪到投資客都無得買磚頭抗通貨膨脹，中介仲唔俾 CY 攪到無啖好食？睇來地代唔摺埋一半政府都唔知死。 |
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2. 裝修佬 2013-02-23 14:40:31 |
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你又真係講中我地班裝修佬炒家仔係SSD後, 好多都無在玩番新單位短炒! 不過好彩我剛剛出SSD時唔撚怕買多三個收租, 宜家平均個個單位都賺六成以上! 不過算啦! 都炒到差唔多啦! 係時候落雨收柴! 哈哈哈! |
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3. 不明人 2013-02-23 14:44:43 |
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現在總稅率已經提高至 BSD:15%，SSD:20%，Double stamp duty (DSD)8% = 43%。這麼高的稅，沒人買樓，沒人賣樓。也不用再起樓，也不用再賣地。
因為地沒人買，樓也沒人買。經濟活動停止了下來。
以後，要住屋就等租住政府的公屋。或者租住比天高的租金的現有私樓。
CY政府真的前無古人，後無來者。
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4. Gorcott 2013-02-23 15:39:47 |
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Government wants the property owners to let out their properties, do not sell. Those marginal buyers will not buy properties and keep on rent. A few years later, the markets turns down with sufficient supply and let those marginal buyers to rethink worth to buy or not. Government tries to protect marginal buyers, government worries they will be suffered over 10 years. The government does not care the rich because she knows those people will lost a bit, but they are able to win back in some other ways. But the government worries those marginal buyers will become “angry men” which will impact on society. |
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5. eric wong 2013-02-23 15:54:30 |
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Agree!最仆你個街係余耀鎏/油漆佬的鬍鬚余,唔係你個仆街,整天說政府冇料到,政府都唔會亂出招,肥佬湯文亮不要再話那個大言不慚小炒家,make profit小 小,give him a way out.Last but not the least,689帶同傻強/盲炳/阿茂亂出招玩書呆子做實驗,樓市死啦!
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6. Lego Seats 2013-02-23 16:06:56 |
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Yesterday's govt policies don"t respect property rights and infringe the Basic Law. There is a need for all the small property owners to set up a political party & get elected for some seats in the Legco to counter balance the present government's suppression. Bear in mind there are 1.25 Million private flats in hong kong and that carries a mandate of over 3 million voters. If each donates HK$100 to this new political party then there will be HK$300 million to use for election compaign. Such a political party with 3 million suppoters and HK$300 million to spend in the next Legco election in 2016 can get 5 to 10 seats in Legco to counter check and balance unreasonable govt policies. |
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7. Legco Seats 2013-02-23 16:22:21 |
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Forgot to count the industrial and commercial sectors, then there are at least 1.6 to 1.7 million privately owned properties and the mandate will be at least 4 Million and the fund for compaign to set up such a political party will be $400 million. Then this new property owner political party will at least get 8 to 15 legco seats in the election 2016 to counter balance this HKSAR govt for their disrespect of property rights in hong kong. |
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8. mini 2013-02-23 16:24:54 |
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In HK, the land area is currently less than 1000 sq.km., it is difficult to identify who's investor, speculator, and/or private homeowner in the past dates, but we have at least 1 million of population that will be added in the long term. Right now, we are facing over 200,000 applicants for public housing ! We are all living in a tiny place ! In China, the officials had already announced a plan called "EYT" for over 10 years. That is no more Free Lunches/Free Houses to state-owned enterprises. They have to buy their living flats in private market, the government officials need to focus on the establishments for basic housing, education & health systems... In the coming years, the state policy is to double the personal incomes... In the globe, there is around $90 trillion debts in the advanced and emerging countries, as well as high unemployment rates in some regions, according to the presses. The experts keep saying: huge debts, low economic growth. That means Inflation is False, Currency Devaluation is True... Believe or Not... |
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9. 多卵魚 2013-02-23 16:36:12 |
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10. 法子 2013-02-23 16:50:09 |
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CY 的唯一邏輯
表面上看來， CY 話樓價過高，有下跌風險，但又推出津貼房屋，叫小市民上車，好像不合邏輯。
表面上看來， CY 一路出招壓抑須求，一路幫人上車，增加須求，好像不合邏輯。
表面上看來， CY 一路話造大個餅，一路閉關鎖港，固步自封，好似不合邏輯。
從「令香港好」的角度去看，真的找不到一個固定邏輯去貫通上述所講的政策。
但從 CY 個人政治利益角度去看，所有政策都是挽救民望，增加個人聲望。
大家還不知 CY 心想什麼，是什麼人嗎？
他有很多政策，已經損害香港經濟，去增加個人聲望，但財赤因此快來了，把你的客人趕走了。 |
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11. Property Owners 2013-02-23 17:03:03 |
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Maybe it's the time for us to go out and strike. We are just being too quiet so, there is nobody care about our right and benefit..... |
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12. Legco Seats 2013-02-23 17:28:04 |
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The first step is to set up a march by property owners & family members (4 million people). If a quarter of them go the march will be 1 million people calling the HK govt to withdraw all mortgage tightening policies, SSD1, SSD2, BSD and DSD and calling for the resignation of those finance ministers in the Treasury and the HKMA responsible for these wrong policies. In the march discuss about formation of a new political party to protect propperty owners. Set up such a political party to run the next district council election in 2015 to gain experience for the Legco election in 2016 for sure win. No power no say noone cares about you owners |
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13. Legco seats 2013-02-23 17:46:51 |
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Once a march can be done as said above. The Hk Govt could immediately see the quali of the hk property owners. They will withdraw all these unreasonable policies & those ministers responsible will step down even before the political party is formed. Indeed, the PRC will be glad to see a political party of such background to be formed to take up the 20 seats in the Legco to replace the functional constutinencies which are supposed to be abolished in 2016 according to the Basic Law. So that the so called democrates could not get it. |
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14. 法子 2013-02-23 17:59:45 |
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鍾山風雨起蒼黃，百萬業主 |
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15. 法子 2013-02-23 18:01:26 |
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鍾山風雨起蒼黃，百萬業主滙香江。
之前怒火未夠，而家一解即發！ |
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16. Legco Seats 2013-02-23 18:15:16 |
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Karl Marx and Communism always wants its people to go through revolutions. They always say revolution has not yet succeeded. So a march by property owners in a communist's point of view is absolutely the right thing to do to resolve a social conflict. If you do not come out and shout who knows you are suppressed to an extreme. So march in the street to show your greiveance is a proper and poltically correct communist approach. To get political power in Legco to have say for the hk property owners is the only way to survive in HK. |
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17. Legco Seats 2013-02-23 18:56:52 |
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Can any knowledgable person(s) advise how to apply for permission from the police to hold a political march? I hope that a march can take place within 4 weeks from 22/2/2013. |
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18. 上街吧 2013-02-23 19:22:47 |
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此時此刻是大部分中產人還覺所有辣招冇乜所謂，到真正後患爆發時，屍還遍野，做官果批大不了辭職走人。佢地搞砸經濟可以亳不費力。事後又是但懶乜都得。
點解港元還不脫勾美元？樓貴，生活用品貴，為甚麼不從根本原因解決問題！中產冇政府幫唯有自己顯示力量。人善被人欺，祇管低頭工作不理世事，慣於倚懶所謂民主派人士，大家遲早向下成CY犧牲品。再吾出聲，香港真係完！ |
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19. 八萬五 2013-02-23 19:24:34 |
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梁挀英 ,曾俊華 , 陳德霖 3 個人就可玩殘香港百萬業主 , 利害 !
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20. 689 下台吧 2013-02-23 19:39:59 |
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689 和飯民共產黨，根本就是一致的利益。飯民共產黨要打擊水貨客，他們就打擊，飯民共產黨要打擊樓市，實行計劃經濟，689就執行。 飯民共產黨已經變成了執政黨。689基本上只有跟着飯民的思路去行。689和飯民配合得天衣無縫，一個做好人，一個做醜人，難得中產還被蒙在鼓裡。 |
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21. 洪量流 2013-02-23 20:28:20 |
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最新收緊按揭已連上車人士成為犧牲品，被迫繼續租樓為業主供賣， 好慘。高官出這麼多招，無非要任何市民不要買樓，來掩飾高官無能力去找地，高官人工高，抽業主交稅交差餉地租地價，到頭來打番業主，唉! |
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22. 689 下台吧 2013-02-23 22:09:25 |
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樓上，根本香港最強大的政治實體，就是公屋霸權。連8萬長毛都要把住公屋，大家就知道，香港會被公屋玩殘。 現在最可怕的是689和飯民共產黨，一唱一和，勢要將香港推向社會主義大同世界。 |
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23. DSD Discriminate Singles 2013-02-23 22:20:05 |
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If my household is married couple then I or my wife only needs to pay normal stamp duty to buy a second flat. But if I am a single household, then I have to pay duble stamp duty to buy a second flat. Accordingly, the new DSD discriminates single households and should be put to the court for judicial review on the ground of discrimination. |
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24. HUMAN RIGHTS 2013-02-23 22:29:40 |
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The recent mortgage tightenings and SSD1 SSD2 BSD and DSD are policies against human rights as they tend to slow down transactions. As a result of which, citizens in Hong Kong have been deprived from the basic human right to move to a new home from time to time when they wish to do so. |
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25. 痴忍扇 2013-02-23 22:38:05 |
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陽萎的老死州顯曾說過不會和全港最精明的商人對賭. 不和超人對賭,那唯有掉轉頭和全港最廢的狗官對賭 想發達就必須逆其道而行,因廢狗官思維策略只會使 人越跟越死.最後沒地企 為求捉著這發達机會,痴忍扇決定連底褲都檔埋,買廢 狗官對家.如不幸底褲都輸埋,最多是州顯和給人知道 自己是陽萎. 沒有什麽大不了. |
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26. INHERITANCE 2013-02-23 22:46:30 |
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DSD also affect those people who in the future inherite a property from their deceased parent(s) or spouse. 8.5% of the value of the property inherited goes to the govt. Estate Duty was abolished in the last govt now this new govt brings it back in another name. |
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27. INHERITANCE 2013-02-23 23:03:27 |
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DSD means 8.5% of the value of the property inherited without any deduction of any outstanding mortgage. Does it break the whole tax system in HK. Need Judicial Review! Certainly as DSD infringes human right, discriminates Single household and affect inheritance. |
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28. 2013年是進入停止投資房產年 2013-02-24 01:09:36 |
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2013年是進入停止投資房產年!!! 2013年是進入停止投資房產年!!! 2013年是進入停止投資房產年!!! |
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29. 雲在青天水在瓶 2013-02-24 12:33:50 |
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最近，由立法會 “退休” 議員李永達先生及部份專業人仕組成的「土地監察」，推算本港多個發展商囤積近三千個住宅單位，要求發展商在獲批預售樓花同意書後一個月內進行公開發售，並須參考即將實施的《一手住宅物業銷售條例》規定，公布價單及銷售數量。 看了這條消息，就不難理解李先生為何落選了。三千個住宅單位相對於每年10萬個物業成交，不知如何可稱得上囤積？發展商賣樓有一定的計劃，既有市場營銷策略，也有財政年度的考慮，三千單位不應該理解為超出合理的存貨量。 實際上，囤積居奇的始作俑者，非政府莫屬。三年來的壓制樓市政策，特別是SSD，把業主趕上囤積居奇之路。在長期低息的環境下，業主們也知道現在樓市仍處於上升周期，故也樂於加入囤積的行列。政府最新的房策，對低價樓網開一面，鼓勵首次置業者入市，入市後即鎖死，變相令囤積大軍不斷狀大。 |
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30. 689的底 2013-02-24 14:17:54 |
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689每次休假都是去外国，勾结外国势力，搞垮香港。689的名字已经有得你叫。事实上，他是大英渗透中共的卧底，意图利用共产主义，来搞垮香港。你看，他的政策，与阿爷所说，勾结外国势力的反对派，有大分别吗？
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31. 689的底 2013-02-24 14:19:08 |
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| 大家不要忘记，689小时候哪里生活？大学哪里读书？哈哈 |
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32. 死 2013-02-24 14:22:34 |
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你說現屆政府是倒行逆施，不如說cy麾下無一能人。房屋政策越搞越糟，樓樓越壓越升。港人真的是慘!慘!慘!
我開始懷疑政府到底是真心壓樓價，或是假意。要是真的話，政府應該免地價讓發展商起樓，然後限價出售。
但實際上是地價是天價 (天油圍都要3000元)，建築費3000。你叫發展商賣多少????
老實講，就算是4000元一尺，大部分人金苦百姓都無能上車。
還有你那一車車的死人「調理需求」招數，
真的是有樓、無樓都給你害死。 |
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33. Johnny 2013-02-25 12:13:16 |
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雲兄 同意你的說法。大批业主加入囤積大軍。不过同其他貨品囤一積不同，囤積其他貨品要蝕倉租同埋冇收入。在空置率其低的今天 (A類单位 2.7% 空置) ，要找租客是件 easy jobs，加上低按揭利率，业主囤積單住係有可观的租金收入，兼有強大防守力 |
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34. mini 2013-02-25 18:32:36 |
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Because of longer life expectancy and biological changes in future, so far, we have not seen any policy on population ageing, the elderly people have already bought extra, little flats as their investments in nursing homes for covering medical spending and / or health care at home if necessary... Imagine the super rich around the world who will buy large flats in HK as their residence addresses for tax advantages. It is natural instinct... Also, the elderly people do not expect the kawaiis who will take care of them. As noted, the kawaiis love to shop for cosmetics, perfumes, the other beauty treatments, foods & beverages. They could spend at HK$900 for hairstyling at TST ! They already booked tickets for travelling to Japan because of devaluation of Yen ! What they said, the government officials /the social welfare department/the public housing department will take of their parents... Again, it is natural instinct... In the short term, we do face the potential buyers for small, and large houses in HK... |
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