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1. 路過 2013-01-18 15:57:49
可能又有人聽錯,漏了個「唔」字,即係:

有7成人「唔」反對再出招

2. 目标三间屋 2013-01-18 16:11:45

博士,

你是不是说 “ 所以,贊成政府出招的是少數人,但政府又從善如流,變成數服從數,似乎這不是民主的表現。 ”

实在坦心如果搂价又升会刺激政府再出手干预。

3. 你呃人 2013-01-18 16:26:41
"全港有超過一半人有私人物業,這班人怎會要求政府將樓價壓下去,而另外的一半則大多數住公屋"-- 那沒有人租私樓了. 百萬業主都沒有, 因為 炒家 / 投資者隨時手持10個8個物業.
4. 狗頭貓 2013-01-18 16:27:00
給博士一個贊. 遲來的文章, 寫出大部份業主的心聲. 全世界大城市樓價都高企, 小業主雖然自住, 也不想資產被落後於人的. 立法會議員有利益衝突, 不方便表決, 影響某類議案因人數比例改變, 而得出非主流或相反意願, 確值得留意.
6. EK 2013-01-18 17:12:46
支持湯博士的這篇文章,說得很對。立法會以前那李XX戰士总是在叫要下壓樓價的表表者,还好不在了,真的自食其果。希望梁和他的粉絲用心去了解真相。
7. 應效法新加坡政府 2013-01-18 17:19:36
現時市場資金泛濫﹐加上聯繫匯率的限制﹐令資金源源不絕湧入香港﹐推高一切資產。 不過﹐這個情況不可能長期維持﹐因為政府亦意識到這會嚴重地令社會分化。因此﹐相信未來陸續會有防止資金流入炒作的政策, 香港政府應推出打擊工商鋪買賣政策.

8. 路人甲 2013-01-18 17:20:45
湯博士文簡意精,正正道出了大部份業主心聲。
9. 2014年中加息 2013-01-18 17:38:03

失業率至6.5%或僅需年半

美國失業率何時才會回落至聯儲局的目標水平,各界預測不一,就連聯儲局內部對2013年失業率預測範圍由6.9%至7.8%,高低位亦相差近1個百分點,不同的經濟預測之下的加息時間表,隨時相差逾一年。

究竟失業率何時才會回落至6.5%?粗略地計一計,美國失業率由2009年10月10%的高峰回落至上月的7.8%,歷時39個月,期間非農業就業職位增加428.7萬個。換言之,要令失業率下跌1個百分點,約需194萬個新增職位。若按近兩年平均每月新增15.3萬個職位,失業率大約需時16.5個月便會回落至6.5%,亦即2014年5月,計入兩個月誤差,時間大約為2014年首季至年中左右。聯儲局預測美國今年經濟略高於去年,意味職位增長的速度有機會更高,失業率或可能更快便能回落至6.5%水平。

 

10. 法子 2013-01-18 19:21:21
湯生說得對。

我也是反對出招的其中一個,只是「早幾年貪心去沽空樓市(賣掉自住樓想低位買回)的人,經常大聲嘈政府,所以以為人人都想樓價跌。

政府只應該增加供應,不應畀投資建議市民。
11. FOR EXAMPLE??? 2013-01-18 20:34:08

而另外的一半則大多數住公屋

包括那些已有幾部士牌,又有幾層收租私樓物業,子女已長大成人做醫生律師成家立室,欺騙政府霸著[風水]公屋,又不用被罰坐監的那班香港狗公屋富戶嗎?

打擊公屋富戶,全港未上樓的市民有責,必須舉報!!!

!!! 公  屋 政  策  不  是  請  客  吃  飯 !!!   

公屋富戶為何有名貴私家車代步,有的士牌收租,有幾層私樓收租,子女長大成人做了律師醫生的,不會給家用嗎?為何這班富貴老人恃老,霸著公屋,讓低下階層卜不到車?

12. 公屋富戶齊舉報 2013-01-18 20:37:35

 

而另外的一半則大多數住公屋

包括那些已有幾部的士牌,又有幾層收租私樓物業,子女已長大成人做醫生律師成家立室,欺騙政府霸著[風水]公屋,又不用被罰坐監的那班公屋霸權-食屎公屋富戶嗎?

##打擊公屋富戶,全港未上樓的市民有責必須舉報##

!!! 公  屋 政  策  不  是  請  客  吃  飯 !!!  

公屋富戶為何有名貴私家車代步,有的士牌收租,有幾層私樓收租,子女長大成人做了律師醫生的,不會給家用嗎?為何這班富貴老人恃老,霸著公屋,讓低下階層卜不到車?

 

13. 亮劍 2013-01-18 22:17:33
一句七成人可以做業主,董伯伯聴某君老點,四周圍挖掘土地出來起樓,天量房屋供應加亞洲金融風暴嘅結果,係樓價跌到阿媽都唔認得,全部損失幾乎由業主埋曬單!
而香港跟手果幾年,能否用減低營商成本,增強競爭力嗎?做咗業主嘅人開心嗎?政府稅收及GDP有增長嗎?大家嘅人工有加嗎?答案係百無!
現在仲話幫中產置業,希望佢哋做咗業主之後就變順民,真係天真爛漫過阿嬌,做咗業主之後,如果跟住樓價升或者係嘅,相反跌鑊金!激進過長毛都仲得呀!

14. nobody 2013-01-18 22:20:55

回應標題==> 輿論是否真的會變成真理?

15. 每天擔心特首砍刀砍落來 2013-01-18 22:38:58
做咗業主之後,根本就是受苦受難,每天擔心特首砍刀砍落來..........
16. anggie T. 2013-01-18 23:01:19

Yes, pretty much my opinions too.....

Just have some thoughts tonight after having dinner with my husband, we went to a cozy Indian Restaurant in Sheung Wan on 1/F of some old commercial bldg that they still can offer you a set dinner for two for $208 including 7 dishes & two drinks(beer included).  We both almost have our eyes opened-wide & couldn't believe it!(the food was excellent no kidding!!!)  I told my husband the Rest. was there for at least 15-20 years & we then jump to the conclusion, the owner must have bought the place & his running cost is so cheap that he could offer the food so cheap......

Actually there're also different dim-sum places in Sheung Wan that are not charging customers market price(market price for me means you'll have to pay at least $100 per head for lunch to get some reasonable things to fill up your stomach)  Try your luck to find them!  Again we as Sheung Wan working people concluded the owner must have owned the place!

So what's my point here??  My point here is to encourage the people to manage their finances properly & with great responsibility!  So not just you yourself can benefit from it but the Zone 1 people that you interact with(what Zone 1 people? Your direct family, your customers/clients, your subordinates, people that rely on your pay-check/indirectly affected by how much you make)

I believe not everyone can afford to own their own property but they should at least try to own one, and if possible own extra one/two properties& make yourself more settled financially.  Then you don't have to go crazy & increase so much of your rent if you have a good tenant.  We have all our apartments the "below market rent" ranging from $2,000 to $7,000 per month. Yes, we're abit crazy people but we're having good cash flow & there's no need to drive our tenants crazy too!!!  For those who just wanna complain here, if you can give it a bet to change your destiny, try your very best!  Otherwise, pray that you have a landlord like me........

17. anggie T. 2013-01-18 23:01:19

Yes, pretty much my opinions too.....

Just have some thoughts tonight after having dinner with my husband, we went to a cozy Indian Restaurant in Sheung Wan on 1/F of some old commercial bldg that they still can offer you a set dinner for two for $208 including 7 dishes & two drinks(beer included).  We both almost have our eyes opened-wide & couldn't believe it!(the food was excellent no kidding!!!)  I told my husband the Rest. was there for at least 15-20 years & we then jump to the conclusion, the owner must have bought the place & his running cost is so cheap that he could offer the food so cheap......

Actually there're also different dim-sum places in Sheung Wan that are not charging customers market price(market price for me means you'll have to pay at least $100 per head for lunch to get some reasonable things to fill up your stomach)  Try your luck to find them!  Again we as Sheung Wan working people concluded the owner must have owned the place!

So what's my point here??  My point here is to encourage the people to manage their finances properly & with great responsibility!  So not just you yourself can benefit from it but the Zone 1 people that you interact with(what Zone 1 people? Your direct family, your customers/clients, your subordinates, people that rely on your pay-check/indirectly affected by how much you make)

I believe not everyone can afford to own their own property but they should at least try to own one, and if possible own extra one/two properties& make yourself more settled financially.  Then you don't have to go crazy & increase so much of your rent if you have a good tenant.  We have all our apartments the "below market rent" ranging from $2,000 to $7,000 per month. Yes, we're abit crazy people but we're having good cash flow & there's no need to drive our tenants crazy too!!!  For those who just wanna complain here, if you can give it a bet to change your destiny, try your very best!  Otherwise, pray that you have a landlord like me........

18. Peter Paker 2013-01-19 01:15:28

Singapore just imposed a new measure to tax local Singapore residents when buying the 2nd property.  .....非首次住房買家,房貸首付款,由樓價一成,上調到二成半。購買第二套房的新加坡公民,買方印花稅7%,第二套10%購買第一套住房的新加坡永久居屋,買方印花稅5%,第二套10%。.......

 

For details, pls refer to http://hk.centanet.com/icms/template.aspx?series=233&article=45372

 

 

In my opinion, HK will follow Signapore to impose the extra tax when buying the 2nd property. 

 

 

However, these kinds of measures cannot effectively cool down the residential property market.  This is because 在同一私人屋苑内 , 居於自罝物业的家庭數目佔该屋苑家庭總數 平均约 75 - 76%, according to 2011年人口普查.  That means the speculation in residential mkt  is NOT serious as many people imagine.  The current demands for house is 真正剛性住屋需求. 

 

 

Hence , if HK govt imposes new intervention measures, I think it cannot lower property prices eventually, unless hk can increase supply significantly

 

 

I will publish the data later on, after completing my analysis

19. 市區起資助樓 絕不公義 2013-01-19 09:35:15
公屋與居屋,是資助房屋。資助是要錢的,錢從何來?其中主要來源是賣地給發展商起私樓,再賣畀私樓業主,仲有利得稅、薪俸稅、印花稅等等,付出者絕大部份都是私樓業主。


住資助房屋是受助者,私樓業主是供給者。請問,如果受助者平價、免費住市區靚地,供給者貴價、全價住次一級地區,這公平嗎?公義嗎?


舉個例,你個個月捐助中國山區兒童,是因為佢哋窮,你想幫助佢,但如果山區兒童比你住得好、食得好,出國旅行多過你,你還會捐助嗎?


幾多公屋、居屋居民,一年去幾次日本歐洲,食好用好,你睇吓領匯屋邨商場,加晒價都咁旺,就明白了。私樓業主花錢反而好慳,因怕冇錢供樓,會俾銀行收樓;但公屋居民冇錢交租,會俾人趕走嗎?


起公屋冇問題,但在市區起,就不合理,因為市區地賣畀發展商,更有經濟效益。


用50億可在市區起1萬個公屋單位,或在新界遠少少的地區起5萬個。邊樣好?幫5萬個家庭還是幫1萬個好?寧願起1萬間市區而唔想起5萬間新界的人,講到尾都是想自己住市區公屋,即係自私,佢哋又有乜資格話業主自私?
20. 亮劍 2013-01-19 11:51:03

PP---根據特區政府天才思考方式推想,下一波出招,應該係揾那些有第二套房的投資者來開刀,但呢劑藥又有無效呢?小弟不才,同你討論一下。

經過呢幾年政府多樣化打房政策折騰,嗰啲胆汁少啲嘅小業主,都應該俾 CY 三振出局,沽曬所有非自住嘅物業不特止,隨時連自住樓都賣埋等樓災者亦唔少!

咁留下來嘅死淨種,如果唔係持貨實力好强嘅收租佬,就係有實際自住需要嘅一群!

因此如非係創紀錄新高;真係要樓換樓嘅家長客;或真係有強烈財務需要嘅人。業主肯定雷打不放!二手盤嘅來源將越來越少,恐怕連小學生都知悉!

實施埋打擊第二套房投資有乜東東嘢會發生?咁就使到那些擁有非自住物業嘅投資者,更加下定決心,「誓死不沽」!!因為賣咗層樓之後,根本無可能再買得翻,咁邊個人會做出這超高難度動作?這樣  2 手盤嘅來源會更加少,隨時一兩個對價格唔在意嘅買家,就可以將成個屋邨嘅呎價炒到飛起!

21. 順民 2013-01-19 15:51:54
今次博士言之有理﹐亦列舉出了實際例子來支持其並非虛言﹐不錯﹐來來去去只是小部分買不起樓的人不斷喧嘩﹐造成民意假象而已﹐這幫人就算樓價下跌五成都一樣買不起﹐應叠埋心水申請公屋好了。之不過總有部分人存在一種心態﹐就是別人做到的事情而自己做不到的﹐就視為是個人損失﹐就大叫要一律平等﹔要政府幫忙。就是這種人要有我有太公分豬肉的農民思維 ﹗