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1. 王先生 2012-02-08 16:02:30 |
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TT 快啲洗少少錢揾表哥張特訓口才，避戰不如請戰！！
就算口水戰輸左，大家見你咁勇都可以爭翻啲同情分，唔係就算你做得成特首都好難坐得暖個寶座！！
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2. 狼振英 2012-02-08 16:28:30 |
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狼振英本人係有仇必報!! 順我者生, 逆我者死!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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3. O了 2012-02-08 16:43:02 |
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不能把民调的高低变化归究于某个价层的反应，因为同一民调随时间起伏，正正反映当事人期间的表现。 CY针对TT的弱点主动出击，TT的团队却没什么招数拆解，长此下去不但影响TT日后主政的威信，万一差距扩大，难保老佛爷不会施展“握手神功”。 其实TT团队有很多能言善辨之才，只要抓一两个年青才俊出来主动接招，又或推出多一个参选人如余先生者插料打混转移视线，都可以化解CY的攻势，否则难言稳握胜券。 |
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4. DT 2012-02-08 18:16:27 |
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Who is the middle class? What is their tangible contribution? (Part 1) | Table 1 | | | | | | | | | | | HK Public Housing Flat Application | | | | | | | | | | Family Size | Maximum Income
Limit (per month) | Total Net Asset Limit | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 1 Person | $9,200 | $193,000 | | | | | | | | | 2 Persons | $14,116 | $260,000 | | | | | | | | | 3 Persons | $16,063 | $341,000 | | | | | | | | | 4 Persons | $19,537 | $397,000 | | | | | | | | | 5 Persons | $22,653 | $442,000 | | | | | | | | | 6 Persons | $26,358 | $478,000 | | | | | | | | | 7 Persons | $28,779 | $510,000 | | | | | | | | | 8 Persons | $30,474 | $535,000 | | | | | | | | | 9 Persons | $33,926 | $591,000 | | | | | | | | | 10 or more Persons | $33,590 | $636,000 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Source : HK Housing Authority | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Table 2 | | | | | | | | | | | Domestic Households by Monthly Domestic Household Income, 1996, 2001 and 2006 | | | | | | | | | | | | Monthly Domestic Household Income (HK$) | 1996 | 2001 | 2006 | | | | Number | % of total | Number | % of total | Number | % of total | | | | < 2,000 | 55 597 | 3.0 | 65 855 | 3.2 | 86 736 | 3.9 | | | | 2,000 - 3,999 | 68 272 | 3.7 | 97 568 | 4.8 | 118 779 | 5.3 | | | | 4,000 - 5,999 | 75 595 | 4.1 | 93 018 | 4.5 | 121 605 | 5.5 | | | | 6,000 - 7,999 | 105 639 | 5.7 | 116 340 | 5.7 | 146 010 | 6.6 | | | | 8,000 - 9,999 | 136 577 | 7.4 | 120 721 | 5.9 | 147 081 | 6.6 | | | | 10,000 - 14,999 | 324 001 | 17.5 | 318 623 | 15.5 | 339 469 | 15.2 | | | | 15,000 - 19,999 | 269 694 | 14.5 | 262 086 | 12.8 | 279 217 | 12.5 | | | | 20,000 - 24,999 | 210 926 | 11.4 | 223 708 | 10.9 | 225 292 | 10.1 | | | | 25,000 - 29,999 | 147 295 | 7.9 | 159 470 | 7.8 | 162 783 | 7.3 | | | | 30,000 - 39,999 | 183 254 | 9.9 | 219 229 | 10.7 | 221 101 | 9.9 | | | | 40,000 - 59,999 | 150 440 | 8.1 | 197 311 | 9.6 | 194 723 | 8.7 | | | | >=60,000 | 128 263 | 6.9 | 179 483 | 8.7 | 183 750 | 8.3 | | | | Total | 1 855 553 | 100.0 | 2 053 412 | 100.0 | 2 226 546 | 100.0 | | | |
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5. DT 2012-02-08 18:17:39 |
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Part 2 | Table 3 | | | | | | | | Distribution of Salaries Tax and Property Tax Payment Per Month | | | | | by Decile Group 91) 1996, 2001 and 2006 | | | | | | | | | | | | | A | | B | | C | | | | 十等分組別 | | 平均每月繳付 | | 佔所有住戶每月 | | | Decile Group | | 薪俸稅及 | | 薪俸稅及物業稅 | | | | 物業稅的百分比 | | （港元） | | | | | Average | | Percentage of | | | | Salaries Tax and | | Total Amount of | | | | Property Tax Paid | | Salaries Tax and | | | | Per Month | | Property Tax Paid | | | | (HK$) | | by All Households | | | | | | Per Month | | | | | | | | | | | A | 1996 B | 1996 C | 2001 B | 2001 C | 2006 B | 2006 C | | | | | | | | | 1st | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2nd | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 3rd | 14 | 0.10% | 1 | 0% | 1 | 0% | | 4th | 54 | 0.40% | 9 | 0.10% | 9 | 0.10% | | 5th | 107 | 0.70% | 29 | 0.20% | 34 | 0.20% | | 6th | 229 | 1.50% | 82 | 0.60% | 113 | 0.80% | | 7th | 446 | 2.90% | 187 | 1.40% | 205 | 1.40% | | 8th | 952 | 6.20% | 510 | 3.70% | 585 | 4% | | 9th | 2147 | 14.10% | 1572 | 11.50% | 1812 | 12.40% | | 10th | 11326 | 74.10% | 11318 | 82.60% | 11904 | 81.20% | | Overall | 1528 | 100% | 1371 | 100% | 1466 | 100% | | | | | | | | |
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6. DT 2012-02-08 18:18:26 |
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Final part Who is the middle class in Hong Kong? What is their tangible contribution? Based on the below Table 1, 2 and 3. Household income below $20k/month with family size 4 persons = work class (Table 1) Household income below $20k/month = 55.6% work class (Table 2) Household income between $20k to $60k/month = 36% middle class (Table 2) 80/20 Rule 80% of salaries tax and property tax paid to the Government is contributed by 20% of people. They are the households who paid HK$142,848 salary and property tax annually. They bring the most tangible benefits to the community (Table 3) Who are they? They are 8.3% of household income above $60k/month (Table 2) How about the middle class contribution? 12.4% of household income paid to the Government HK$21,744 salary and property tax annually. Do you agree? |
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7. younggrandma 2012-02-08 18:39:42 |
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I only know that I paid a lot to the government but get nothing in return. What I want is a peaceful place to live. I don't like to take the train but I have no choice. |
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8. 無奈 2012-02-08 21:46:16 |
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DT: Your analysis based on the figures of year 2006 tells me two things. First, middle class household is not the majority of the community; merely only 36% and I am supprised, Second, using 20k-60k range of household income to classify middle class may not be appropriate anymore. According to TT's saying(in his early stage of campaign ), 20k-80k will be considered as middle class. If that is the case, the size of middle class should be much larger and so does the income tax percentage contributed by the group. Am I right? I found it interesting, when comparing the data of 1996 and 2006 in table3, the percentage of middle class is smaller in 2006. By the way, is it possible to see the graph plotted by using the data in table2? I really want to know if it is a normal curve. thanks. |
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9. AC 2012-02-08 22:05:28 |
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Just want to clarify.
1. If the household income can be related to tax decile directly, the middle class 36pct segment should sit acrosss the 9th and 10th decile
2. Don,t know whether property tax mean rate/rent or not
If its stamp duty then the relationship is not straight forward |
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10. DT 2012-02-08 22:08:02 |
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I cannot post the graph on the comment column. I don't know why? It is a bell shape curve and it is quite consistent amongst 5 years interval period. I don't have any data to breakdown the above $60k household income. My gut feeling is that it doesn't change the picture even though the middle class is between $20k to $80k. The true fact is that HK becomes a rich people country after 1997. It has an hugh impact to the community, especially the luxury property price. My conclusion tends to draw that the middle class is gradually insignificance to the tangible benefits in Hong Kong. Sigh! |
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11. 小市民 2012-02-08 22:19:19 |
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鄉議局在僭建問題上未能得到兩位候選人承諾，正是不知如何處理手上票源? 你睇TT去圍村便知佢地支持邊個. |
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12. mini 2012-02-08 23:19:14 |
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That is one knife, one watermelon on one table for two dreams ! That's funny game ! |
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13. wham 2012-02-09 00:02:49 |
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dont know what the author is trying to say...pointless. |
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14. 無奈 2012-02-09 00:46:21 |
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王先生：口水戰TT肯定輸一條街，但也無礙於上位，看領導人誰能出國訪問也可估到一些端倪。小圈子選舉其實也是一個間接選舉，只是選民的代表性受質疑？民調機構不少，調查結果參差，港大民調在上天眼里是專門為某些政團服務，看看連日來互相炮轟就知其民調的認受性，除非所有民調都有極大差距，否則不太可能痛下殺手。唐人脈關係盤根錯節，比曾強，治港相對穩定，不求有功，但求無過，還有甚麼可求。變？陳水扁、奧巴馬都講過。 |
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15. 博士都係憎恨窮人 2012-02-09 09:29:58 |
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一名網名「叨叨」的少年，不但在微博炫富，更嘲笑窮人，備受網民和媒體關注。經查證，炫富少年 15歲，他在微博展示家中車庫，內有瑪莎拉蒂、林保堅尼等多輛豪華房車；喝 16,000元一瓶的酒；叨叨甚至揚言送給自己的愛犬一個愛馬仕（ Hermè s）手袋，並以此嘲笑窮人「你們連我家狗都不如！」
「過年收了這麼多 iPhone，現砸一台。」春節後，叨叨又在微博展示他的春節禮物，當中包括四部 iPhone 4。因為收到的 iPhone 4太多，他還準備把這些包裝好的 iPhone 4當枕頭。媒體搜尋他的微博，揭露了他一系列炫富微博。他的微博以照片為主，文字很少，將坐豪車、喝洋酒、住洋房的奢侈生活表露無遺。在本月 6日晚，他連發 15條微博，其中有 7張照片是名車的，包括瑪莎拉蒂、林保堅尼、法拉利、平治、寶馬等。
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16. mini 2012-02-09 12:13:47 |
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Attenion Everyone, Please. We have a morning news from local media ! Angela Lobby, Spokewoman of HKSARS: Carcinogenic Yogurt really came in town ! Right now, it is still under surveillance ! CheapEO reponds: Immediately Call Center for Foods Safety for Action. Just a second, Check all wines too, such as brandy, whisky,sake, etc. Go, Go, Go ! |
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17. mini 2012-02-09 19:53:28 |
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As everyone knows, we were poor in the old days. It is really nothing new ! In reality, there are varous kind of people who have different talents/potentials/skills/experiences during the developments of the city. As an international city, we should note that we have different people with different minds, characters,traditions, cultures, hobbies/interests, lifestyles, etc. It is quite common when there are many views. (The rich = bad ??? The poor = nil / naked?? ?) Do not close your eyes and/or ears ! As a whole, citizens are contributing their comments, suggestions by using IT to our government for building our dreams.. We shall overcome, never give up ! Tomorrow will be better ! That's our Hong Kong, PRC. |
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18. 王先生 2012-02-10 11:14:12 |
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2010年4月
港府建議動用公帑，以發還「維修費」為名補貼六條離島航線，但當中涉及由曾蔭權胞弟曾蔭培擔任高層的新創建旗下公司新渡輪，令人質疑曾蔭權「明益自己人」。
2009年10月
曾蔭權弟婦林淑貞為雷曼迷債苦主，而林淑貞後來被揭火速獲賠償，足足較當局推出回購方案早四個月。但曾蔭權堅拒交代內情，更指傳媒「無中生有」，引來各界怒轟。
2009年10月
曾蔭權於施政報告中提出派發慳電膽現金券，但事後被揭發其媳婦莫蔚淇的家族公司正是慳電膽市場佔有率近半的品牌代理商，加上曾蔭權事前未有申報，引來他涉利益輸送的疑雲。該措施亦因此而胎死腹中。
2006年8月
曾擔任公民教育委員會主席及城規會成員的曾蔭權表哥香灼璣被本報揭發非法佔用官地近二十年，事件令地政總署及屋宇署等多個政府部門飽受抨擊。
2005年3月
曾蔭權於媳婦莫蔚淇參加外科院士考試前夕，在山頂官邸宴請該考試的考官英國愛丁堡皇家外科醫學院院長史密斯。事件於同年六月被傳媒揭發，曾蔭權被各界怒斥不懂避嫌。
1996年10月
曾蔭權於兒子曾慶衍正在英國習醫之時，利用財政司辦公室的官用信箋，致函當時擔任醫務委員會主席的楊紫芝並要求該會修例，豁免於英聯邦國家習醫的學生考執業試，讓他們直接回港行醫。事件曝光後惹來各界抨擊其以官職向醫委會施壓，涉以權謀私。 |
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19. 罰祖 2012-02-17 11:12:33 |
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所謂「修身、齊家、治國、平天下」，古之欲明明德於天下者，先治 其國。欲治其國者，先齊其家。欲齊其家者，先修其身。欲修其身者，先正其心。博士飽讀詩書，卻分析能力之低如小學雞，為自身和權貴利益，篇篇歪理，連最基 本的知識都潰乏，與唐豬為伍，枉為人也，死後先落無間地獄，下世必貶為豬，與唐豬為鄰！ |
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